Some speculate that the elect may be few. Part IV: Minds, Bodies, and Persons. 21-57) but its full discharge is well beyond the scope of this paper. An Engagement with Marilyn McCord Adams's Horrendous Evils and the Goodness of God 1 William C. Placher Wabash College, Crawfordsville, IN 47933, USA I may have agreed to review this work under false pretenses. When confronted by horrendous evil, even the most pious believer may question not only life's worth but also God's power and goodness. [Horrendous Evils and the Goodness of God (Cornell Studies in the Philosophy of Religion)] [Author: Adams, Marilyn McCord] [September, 2000]: Adams, Marilyn McCord: Books - Amazon.ca Probeer. And some virtually make this a requirement on an adequate solution. She combines keen analytic philosophy and deep engagement with the Christian tradition. (i) First, because God in Christ participated in horrendous evil through His passion and death, human experience of horrors can be a means of identifying with Christ, either through sympathetic identification (in which each person suffers his/her own pains, but their similarity enables each to know what it is like for the other) or through mystical identification (in which the created person is supposed literally to experience a share of Christ’s pain For example, Julian of Norwich tells us that she prayed for and received the latter ( Revelations of Divine Love , chapter 17). When confronted by horrendous evil, even the most pious believer may question not only life's worth but also God's power and goodness. ). I offer the following list of paradigmatic horrors: the rape of a woman and axing off of her arms, psychophysical torture whose ultimate goal is the disintegration of personality, betrayal of one’s deepest loyalties, cannibalizing one’s own off-spring, child abuse of the sort described by Ivan Karamazov, child pornography, parental incest, slow death by starvation, participation in the Nazi death camps, the explosion of nuclear bombs over populated areas, having to choose which of one’s children shall live and which be executed by terrorists, being the accidental and/or unwitting agent of the disfigurement or death of those one loves best. Another positive in Adams's treatment of theodicy is her use of Christian resources in addressing the problem. Adams’ proposal is interesting, but ultimately I’m afraid it strays too far from the biblical witness for me to endorse. Here Adams considers an especially thorny kind of evil, what she calls "horrendous evil". * In the development of these ideas, I am indebted to the members of our We’d love your help. Horrendous Evils and the Goodness of God Marilyn McCord Adams. ), J.L. 127-35. For by contrast with the best of earthly mothers, such Divine intimacy is an incommensurate good and would cancel out for the creature any need to know why. Plantinga explicitly hopes that the problem of horrendous evils can thus be solved without being squarely confronted. Taking this third approach, Christians would not need to commit themselves about what in any event we do not know: viz., whether we will (like the two year old) ever grow up enough to understand the reasons why God permits our participation in horrendous evils. For, taken in isolation and made to bear the weight of the whole explanation, such reasons-why draw a picture of Divine indifference or even hostility to the human plight. Second, because God and humans are not on the same moral plane, she says God does not forgive us for sins. A: God exists and is omnipotent, omniscient and perfectly good. Sprache: Englisch. Perhaps, as the Heidelberg catechism suggests, God responds to human sin and the sufferings of Christ with an agony beyond human conception. Cart All. It is logically possible that a world with evils in the amounts and of the kinds found in this world is the best that He could do, Plantinga argues, given His aim of getting some moral goodness in the world. Contrary to what Sutherland suggests ( op.cit. The book is a philosophical treatment of the problem of evil, especially in Christianity. Such reasonable doubt arises because it is so difficult humanly to conceive how such evils could be overcome. I develop this point at some length in Problems of Evil: More Advice to Christian Philosophers, pp. God will thank us one day for our suffering. Adams. Eleonore Stump, "The Mirror of Evil" Louise Antony, "For the Love of Reason" Part III: Knowledge and Reality. In debates about whether the argument from evil can establish the irrationality of religious belief, care must be taken, both by the atheologians who deploy it and the believers who defend against it, to insure that the operative attribute-analyses accurately reflect that religion’s understanding of Divine power and goodness. Marilyn McCord Adams - 1987 - Faith and Philosophy 4 (4):486-505. The questions raised are certainly relevant: how do believers account for those horrendous evils that have seemingly little or no redeeming value. For surely an all- wise and all-powerful God, who loved each created person enough (a) to defeat any experienced horrors within the context of the participant’s life, and (b) to give each created person a life that is a great good to him/her on the whole, would not permit such persons to suffer horrors for no reason. points out, where horrendous evils are concerned, not only do we not know God’s actual reason for permitting them; we cannot even conceive of any plausible candidate sort of reason consistent with worthwhile lives for human participants in them. It simply can’t be that we have to overcome our creaturely status to overcome suffering. Brian Davies - 2001 - Faith and Philosophy 18 (3):390-394. This paper Pike takes up Mackie’s challenge, arguing that (P1) fails to reflect ordinary moral intuitions (more to the point, I would add, Christian beliefs), and traces the abiding sense of trouble to the hunch that an omnipotent, omniscient being could have no reason compatible with perfect goodness for permitting (bringing about) evils, because all legitimate excuses arise from ignorance or weakness. by Robert Audi and William J. Wainwright, Cornell University Press, 1986, pp. raises important new dimensions of the problem of evil debate, but fails to deliver a satisfying conclusion. When confronted by horrendous evil, even the most pious believer may question not only life's worth but also God's power and goodness. 121-43.) Horrendous evils are the types of evils that call into question whether or not a person who experiences such an evil has a life that is worth living (i.e. Her response to the questions though are little more than lukewarm expressions of compassion that avoid any direct answers or substantive solutions. When confronted by horrendous evil, even the most pious believer may question not only life's worth but also God's power and goodness. Before that, she was Horace Tracy Pitkin Professor of Historical Theology at Yale University and also taught at UCLA for a number of years. - Volume 37 Issue 2 - … But, just as (according to Rudolf Otto) humans experience Divine presence now as tremendum (with deep dread and anxiety), now as fascinans (with ineffable attraction), so perhaps our deepest suffering as much as our highest joys may themselves be direct visions into the inner life of God, imperfect but somehow less obscure in proportion to their intensity. A profound philosophical text on the subject of evil, though not for the novice philosopher or theologian. Suppose for the sake of argument that horrendous evil could be included in maximally perfect world orders; its being partially constitutive of such an order would assign it that generic and global positive meaning. I have shouldered some of this burden elsewhere, For example in The Metaphysics of the Incarnation in Some Fourteenth Century Franciscans, Essays Honoring Allan B. Wolter, edited by William A. Frank and Girard J. Etzkorn, (The Franciscan Institute, St. Bonaventure, N.Y. 1985, pp. There are goods that can only be had or experienced by someone who has suffered a horrendous evil. Buy Horrendous Evils and the Goodness of God (Cornell Studies in the Philosophy of Religion): Written by Marilyn McCord Adams, 2000 Edition, Publisher: Cornell University Press [Paperback] by Marilyn McCord Adams (ISBN: 8601417461471) from Amazon's Book Store. Shop now. A distinguished philosopher and a practicing minister, Marilyn McCord Adams has written a highly original work on a fundamental dilemma of Christian thought—how to reconcile faith in God with the evils that afflict human beings. Pp. A distinguished philosopher and a practicing minister, Marilyn McCord Adams has written a highly original work on a fundamental dilemma of Christian thought—how to reconcile faith in God with the evils that As a Christian philosopher, I want to focus in this paper on the problem for the truth of Christianity raised by what I shall call horrendous evils. (Ithaca NY and London: Cornell University Press, 1999). There are no discussion topics on this book yet. A distinguished philosopher and a practicing minister, Marilyn McCord Adams has written a highly original work on a fundamental dilemma of Christian thought how to reconcile faith in God with the evils that afflict human beings. When confronted by horrendous evil, even the most pious believer may question not only life's worth but also God's power and goodness. It is enough to show how God can be good enough to created persons despite their participation in horrors–by defeating them within the context of the individual’s life and by giving that individual a life that is a great good to him/her on the whole. Relative to one another, there is also disproportion, because the good that God is, and intimate relationship with Him, is incommensurate with created goods and evils alike. We are not of a single kind (think Leviticus). Mackie, "Evil and Omnipotence", Mind no. Idea that a good God allows evil to exist in a world that's good on whole Potential Companions or primers to this reading: THE MORAL LANDSCAPE by Sam Harris, POWER OF MYTH and THE HERO WITH A THOUSA. In my opinion, the reasonableness of Christianity can be maintained in the face of horrendous evils only by drawing on resources of religious value theory. Her work in philosophy has focused on the philosophy of religion, especially the problem of evil, philosophical theology, metaphysics, and medevel philosophy. Although our world is riddled with them, the Biblical record punctuated by them, and one of them — viz., the passion of Christ; according to Christian belief, the judicial murder of God by the people of God — is memorialized by the Church on its most solemn holiday (Good Friday) and in its central sacrament (the Eucharist), the problem of horrendous evils is largely skirted by standard treatments for the good reason that they are intractable by them. When confronted by horrendous evil, even the most pious believer may question not only life's worth but also God's power and goodness. was presented at the 1989 Joint-Session of the Mind-Aristotelian Part IV: Minds, Bodies, and Persons. 254 (1955); reprinted in Nelson Pike, God and Evil, Prentice-Hall Inc., Englewood Cliffs, N.J., 1964, pp. When confronted by horrendous evil, even the most pious believer may question not only life's worth but also God's power and goodness. Nevertheless, nature and experience endow people with different strengths; one bears easily what crushes another. This just unravels too much of scripture’s plot for me to endorse. I underscored Mackie’s point and took it a step further. Some generic and global approaches insinuate that Divine permission of evils has motivating reasons of this sort. (P1) A perfectly good being would always eliminate evil so far as it could, and For the Christian, intimacy with a good and infinite God in life after death promises the hope that such evils will in fact be defeated, and that the lives of victims in such cases can be deemed worth living by the victims themselves. When confronted by horrendous evil, even the most pious believer may question not only life's worth but also God's power and goodness. Does not our inability even to conceive of plausible candidate reasons suffice to make belief in such a God positively irrational in a world containing horrors? True/False. When confronted by horrendous evil, even the most pious believer may question not only life's worth but also God's power and goodness. Alvin Plantinga, Self-Profile, in Alvin Plantinga , edited by James E. Tomberlin and Peter van Inwagen, D. Reidel Publishing Company (Dordrecht, Boston, Lancaster, 1985), p.38. She has since 1 January 2004 been the Regius Professor of Divinity at Oxford University. Keith DeRose - manuscript. I have added a few notes that respond to his comments. Society in Swansea, where Professor Stewart Sutherland was the Stewart Sutherland, "Horrendous Evils and the Goodness of God" Eleonore Stump, "The Mirror of Evil" Louise Antony, "For the Love of Reason" Part III: Knowledge and Reality. Account en lijsten Account Retourzendingen en bestellingen. We have new and used copies available, in 1 editions - starting at $12.97. But equally, the truth of Christianity would be inadequately defended by the observation that an omnipotent, omniscient egoist could have created a world with suffering creatures, because Christians insist that God loves other (created) persons than Himself. I am still inclined to think it would guarantee that immeasurable Divine goodness to any person thus benefitted. For the most part, horrors are not recognized as experiences of God (any more than the city slicker recognizes his visual image of a brown patch as a vision of Beulah the cow in the distance). Since Adams insists that God must be good to every created person in the sense that that person’s life has to have been a great good to him or her, Adams’s view is universalist(i.e., all humans will be ‘saved’ or end up in communion with God). This point was made by William Fitzpatrick in our Fall 1987 seminar on the problem of evil at UCLA. I attempted to chart the redemptive plot-line there, whereby horrendous sufferings are made meaningful by being woven into the divine redemptive plot. The issue of evil in Christianity is an eternal question, because every believer has to think about the worth of the life, about the will and power of God… 2. True/False. raises important new dimensions of the problem of evil debate, but fails to deliver a satisfying conclusion. Just as philosophers may or may not find the existence of God plausible, so they may be variously attracted or repelled by Christian values of grace and redemptive sacrifice. Because intimacy with God so outscales relations (good or bad) with any creatures, integration into the human person’s relationship with God confers significant meaning and positive value even on horrendous suffering. My considered opinion is that such collaboration would be too strenuous for the human condition were it not to be supplemented by a more explicit and beatific divine intimacy. I always appreciate Adams' insightfulness as she dissects complex topics. Global Theodicies. Likewise, I suggest, to exhibit the logical compossibility of both dimensions of Divine goodness with horrendous suffering, it is not necessary to find logically possible reasons why God might permit them. Free shipping on orders of $35+ from Target. When confronted by horrendous evil, even the most pious believer may question not only life's worth but also God's power and goodness. Fitzpatrick, and Houston Smit. Would the fact that God permitted horrors because they were constitutive means to His end of global perfection, or that He tolerated them because He could obtain that global end anyway, make the participant’s life more tolerable, more worth living for him/her? Adams explores one of the main dilemmas of Christian philosophical thought �� reconciling of faith in God and the evils afflicting human beings. Over the past thirty years, analytic philosophers of religion have defined the problem of evil in terms of the prima facie difficulty in consistently maintaining J.L. This verdict might seem prima facie tolerable to standard generic and global approaches and indicative of only a minor modification in their strategy: let the above-mentioned generic and global reasons cover Divine permission of non- horrendous evils, and find other reasons compatible with perfect goodness why even an omnipotent, omniscient God would permit horrors. Excellent in challenging modern analytic philosophy of religion in its tendency to sideline particular theological traditions. Given radical human vulnerability to horrendous evils, the ease with which humans participate in them, whether as victim or perpetrator, would not the thought that God visits horrors on anyone who caused them, simply because s/he deserves it, provide one more reason to expect human life to be a nightmare? For present purposes, I define ‘horrendous evils’ as ‘evils the participation in (the doing or suffering of) which gives one reason prima facie to doubt whether one’s life could (given their inclusion in it) be a great good to one on the whole’. 1. Where the internal coherence of Christianity is the issue, however, it is fair to appeal to its own store of valuables. , 314-15), so far as the compossibility problem is concerned, I intend no illicit shift from reason to emotion. This result coheres with basic Christian intuition: that the powers of darkness are stronger than humans, but they are no match for God! –would constitute a reason compatible with perfect goodness for God’s creating a world with evils in the amounts and of the kinds found in the actual world. Adams suggests that horrendous evils can only be defeated by being overwhelmed by something far greater in its goodness than is the evil in its horror. ii. Relative to human nature, participation in horrendous evils and loving intimacy with God are alike disproportionate: for the former threatens to engulf the good in an individual human life with evil, while the latter guarantees the reverse engulfment of evil by good. Solutions to the problem of evil have thus been sought in the form of counter-examples to this latter claim, i.e., logically possible reasons why that would excuse even an omnipotent, omniscient God! And ''Horrendous Evils,'' published by Cornell University Press, is a book written in the painstaking, methodical style of analytic philosophy. But would knowledge of such a fact, defeat for a mother the prima facie , reason provided by her cannibalism of her own infant, to wish that she had never been born? What is the problem of evil? Up to now, my discussion has given the reader cause to wonder whose side I am on anyway? When confronted by horrendous evil, even the most pious believer may question not only life's worth but also God's power and goodness. She pushes beyond both utilitarian calculation (on balance is there more good than evil in the universe) and an absolute free will position (no evil is too great a price to pay for free will). Read reviews and buy Horrendous Evils and the Goodness of God - (Cornell Studies in Philosophy Religion) by Marilyn McCord Adams (Paperback) at Target. Could the truck-driver who accidentally runs over his beloved child find consolation in the idea that this middle-known Middle knowledge, or knowledge of what is in between the actual and the possible, is the sort of knowledge of what a free creature would do in every situation in which that creature could possibly find himself. A distinguished philosopher and a practicing minister, Marilyn McCord Adams has written a highly original work on a fundamental dilemma of Christian thought?how to reconcile faith in God with the evils that afflict human beings. Since Mackie and his successors are out to show that the several parts of the essential theological doctrine are inconsistent with each other, Mackie, op.cit ., pp. e.g. Excellent in challenging modern analytic philosophy of religion in its tendency to sideline particular theological traditions. Mackie, op.cit., p.47. A distinguished philosopher and a practicing minister, Marilyn McCord Adams has written a highly original work on a fundamental dilemma of Christian thought--how to reconcile faith in God with the evils that afflict human beings. For God cannot be said to be good or loving to any created persons the positive meaning of whose lives He allows to be engulfed in and/or defeated by evils–that is, individuals within whose lives horrendous evils remain undefeated. Cf. Some say the decisive defeat of evil with good is promised only within the lives of the obedient, who enter by the narrow gate. She thinks that although Alvin Plantinga has solved the 'abstract' logical problem of evil, she does not think that the 'concrete' problem of evil can likewise be given the same solution because of what she calls horrendous evils. ... Horrendous Evils and the Goodness of God. The thing that distinguishes her is that this is not a “greater good” theodicy, because she maintains there is an unbroachable (for humans) metaphysical gap between God and creation; a scale of value necessary for “greater good” language simply cannot be empl. Marilyn McCord Adams has articulated a fascinating argument against what she calls the Logical Problem of Horrendous Evils. Horrendous Evils and the Goodness of God Cornell Studies in the Philosophy of Religion: Amazon.es: Marilyn McCord Adams: Libros en idiomas extranjeros (2) Evil exists. Reason would, I submit, dictate a negative verdict for worlds whose omniscient and omnipotent manager permits pre-mortem horrors that remain undefeated within the context of the human participant’s life; a fortiori, for worlds in which some or most humans suffer eternal torment. The Reverend Professor Marilyn McCord Adams (1943— ) is an American philosopher of religion, a theologian and a writer on medieval philosophy. 46-47. they can accomplish their aim only if they circumscribe the extension of ‘evil’ as their religious opponents do. But agreement on truth-value is not necessary to consensus on internal consistency. Adams is adamant that the Christian theological tradition (particularly the Trinity and Incarnation) is justified in playing on its own turf, offering rich explanations for why God allows evil and what He has done about it. And all so tightly argued: Professor Adams is, after all, a … The created person’s experience of the beatific vision together with his/her knowledge that intimate Divine presence stretched back over his/her pre-mortem life and reached down into the depths of his/her worst suffering, would provide retrospective comfort independent of comprehension of the reasons-why akin to the two-year-old’s assurance of its mother’s love. If redirected, philosophical reflection on evil can, Adams's book demonstrates, provide a valuable approach not only to theories of God and evil but also to pastoral care. HORRENDOUS EVILS AND THE GOODNESS OF GOD 301 to reflect ordinary moral intuitions (more to the point, I would add, Christian beliefs), and traces the abiding sense of trouble to the hunch that an omnipotent, omniscient being could have no November 12th, 2018 edit: I'm coming back to raise my rating up to five stars because I now actually understand what's going on. Such a road can be consistently travelled only at the heavy toll of admitting that human life in worlds such as ours is a bad bet. In his model article "Hume on Evil" (Philosophical Review LXXII (1963), pp.180-97; reprinted in God and Evil, p.88.) Great book. Likewise, the good of beatific, face-to-face intimacy with God is simply incommensurate with any merely non-transcendent goods or ills a person might experience. She specialized in the philosophy of religion, philosophical theology, and medieval philosophy. In my judgment, it does not. We suffer and are defiled because we straddle a metaphysical gap ourselves. My point is that intimacy with a loving other is a good, participation in which can defeat evils, and so provide everyone with reason to think a person’s life can be a great good to him/her on the whole, despite his/her participation in evils. The putative logically possible reasons offered have tended to be generic and global: generic insofar as some general reason is sought to cover all sorts of evils; global insofar as they seize upon some feature of the world as a whole. In a book I wrote called The Domestication of Transcendence, and elsewhere, I Note, once again, contrary to what Sutherland suggests (op.cit ., 321-23) ‘horrendous evil e is defeated’ entails none of the following propositions: ‘e was not horrendous’, ‘e was not unjust’, ‘e was not so bad after all’. Support The worst evils demand to be defeated by the best goods. 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